In honor of our book "Duke Sucks" release, we're joined by Ian Williams, the man behind the famous Daily Tar Heel anti-Duke column. We ponder the back-up point guard situation and question whether a team as hapless as NC State can even be considered a rival. Plus, it's Part 1 of our two-part look at former Carolina players' rap songs, and Dook sucks this week because no one likes them or wants to spend money on them. Email us at thbthd@gmail.com. 

The emotional pendulum swings in the other direction for Reed and Andy this week after the victory over the Hokies. Who is stepping up on the team as the designated leader? With Strickland out, Reed scares Andy with the thought of Stilman White playing 20 minutes at Cameron. Nerd Alert: this podcast includes a crazy stats quiz. Tidbit #3 from our Duke Sucks book covers an incident that happened nearly 80 years ago.

Reed and Andy try to make sense of the biggest WTF game from the Heels in awhile and propose that James Michael McAdoo and P.J. Hairston could have handled themselves just fine against some swarming Seminole fans, thank you very much. We talk about Roy’s book before we once again shamelessly shill our own. Because, hey, even Oprah likes it. Email us at thbthd@gmail.com

Andy is away on vacation this week at Dollywood or wherever he goes, so stepping in is special guest Jonathan Jones, former sports editor at the Daily Tar Heel, not editor in chief at Carolina Blue magazine. We're halfway through the season, so it's time for the mid-season report card. Who gets an A+? And what aspect of Carolina basketball gets an F? (Sorry for the slightly wonky sound. Can't be helped this week.) Email us a thbthd@gmail.com